Sunday, August 2, 2009

Do you know where can I find an internship in computer programming?

I gradugated from the university in 2002 as a computer science graduate. I wasted about 2 years of my time studying for an MBA that i never completed and then i had to work for about 2 years as a estate agent. I love software developement and i'm finding it almost imposible to find a job as software developer, as i have no comercial experience whatsoever! Any advice? Do you think i should apply for an unpaid internship? If yes, where can i find it ?

Do you know where can I find an internship in computer programming?
how many times r you going to ask that...and no i dont
Reply:If you add electrical skills to your bag of tricks, you can probably find work in writing software for Programmable Logic Controllers (PLC's). The industry pays fairly well and it is demanding work, but it is also satisfying work.





PLC's are computers that control industrial processes. They turn on motors, move actuators, measure temperatures and pressures, etc... It is more difficult for people in other countries to replace you because you have to be present at the factory for a lot of the work that must be done.





If you decide to go down this path, look for an electrical contractor or plant maintenance group that will take you on at entry level. That way they can teach you a lot of the electrical work (study theory on your own at night!) while you get paid to learn. Work your way into getting your hands on the PLC code from there. You might have to change companies a couple of times in the process, but you will have a career if you learn how to design, wire, install, program, and maintain PLC systems.





Keep in mind that this isn't like writing C++ or Java where a mistake doesn't cause damage. Bad PLC code can pour 200 degree acid on someone's head or damage a $60,000 batch of product. This is a very demanding career path. It is also more physical because you need electrical installation and troubleshooting skills as well if you really want to be good.





Imagine you walk into a plant, and there is a line down. If you fix the line, 15 workers get to finish their shift. If you fail, they go home early without pay. It's hero or goat time.... If you can handle that kind of pressure, you might seriously consider industrial automation programming.
Reply:If survival is not a problem, try for unpaid internship
Reply:If you add electrical skills to your bag of tricks, you can probably find work in writing software for Programmable Logic Controllers (PLC's). The industry pays fairly well and it is demanding work, but it is also satisfying work.





PLC's are computers that control industrial processes. They turn on motors, move actuators, measure temperatures and pressures, etc... It is more difficult for people in other countries to replace you because you have to be present at the factory for a lot of the work that must be done.





If you decide to go down this path, look for an electrical contractor or plant maintenance group that will take you on at entry level. That way they can teach you a lot of the electrical work (study theory on your own at night!) while you get paid to learn. Work your way into getting your hands on the PLC code from there. You might have to change companies a couple of times in the process, but you will have a career if you learn how to design, wire, install, program, and maintain PLC systems.





Keep in mind that this isn't like writing C++ or Java where a mistake doesn't cause damage. Bad PLC code can pour 200 degree acid on someone's head or damage a $60,000 batch of product. This is a very demanding career path. It is also more physical because you need electrical installation and troubleshooting skills as well if you really want to be good.





Imagine you walk into a plant, and there is a line down. If you fix the line, 15 workers get to finish their shift. If you fail, they go home early without pay. It's hero or goat time.... If you can handle that kind of pressure, you might seriously consider industrial automation programming.
Reply:John Prescott.
Reply:HAVE U TRY TRUMP CORP ?
Reply:get a job as a tester, not as a software developer. You will be required to write software (like Quick Test Pro) scripts .. but good testers are in high demand and it will allow you to get back into software development .. DONT WORK FOR FREE
Reply:Ask yourself "Would you hire a quitter?" When a prospective employer asks "Why did you not finish your MBA" any answer you give will not convince them.


Why do employers hire candidates with university degrees?


Because it shows they have the persistance and determination to go and get that U degree.


Yes you got a computer science degree but you went on to take a business degree which would only have accentuated that computer science degree, you know, given you business training that you could apply to computer science, and probably do some miraculous things!


BUT YOU QUIT. So a prospective employer sees that and wonders what you will be like working in his company. He won't put his reputation on the line for a stranger like you who has shown he has a quitting streak in him.


WHAT TO DO. If you can, put your tongue in your cheek and go back and complete that wayward MBA, DO IT. It will only take you two years and you might be able to do it part time while working in your chosen field. Should be a lot easier to talk your way out after you have eaten crow and obtained that MBA. The MBA will only do you good and you sound intelligent, so you should be able to visualize doing some great things in information management services.


It would certainly give you more guarantees than any other suggestion here. It is like being an Engineer and having a major business degree. Employers love them and will kill to get them, figuratively speaking. Anything else, in my mind, is speculation, and I only bet on sure things. Look at my credentials and tell me if you think I was wrong.


Unpaid internship, are you crazy? Will make you look desparate!


You can never appear desparate just like you never accept a lateral move, or a demotion, or a lesser package ... these things make you look insecure, big time! ... be confident. More good things come to those who are patient and pray for those good things. Also learn to visualize for your accomplishments. It works miracles.


PS - you DID NOT WASTE 2 YEARS! Read again what I said above. The truth hurts.
Reply:Check out the jobs on Pixar.com I noticed that you don't even need more than a high school degree for some of their programing jobs and they have internships.
Reply:Yes.In our town we need you but we live in I.R.I.
Reply:Do you think i should apply for an unpaid internship?





Yes. Follow your love . Doing what you love to do every day is more important than a salary, you know a weekly wage$.





Creating love every day can only bring good things.
Reply:Finish your MBA Listen to wc_carroll answer they are not empty words... even if your working on it for a while....


Then you can do a unpaid inter ship without looking like a quiter or desperate


Read the book "Never Eat Alone"
Reply:I would go to any company that I have an interest in - financial, advertising, law enforcement, etc. Apply directly - don't wait to see an advertisement because then you've opened yourself up to too much competition!! just go for it! don't offer to go unpaid - first see what they have to offer.
Reply:In your case, I believe I would study a little harder in English and grammar. This may help you to improve your chances of an internship. If you are making as many mistakes in asking a simple question, what are you going to do in a position such as computer programming?
Reply:Most software developement jobs are in the third world country.


I was a mainframe programmer for 25 years. There is nothing out there. You need to go into management with your degree.


Sorry.......


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